i'm not used to that theater. i'm used to ceos. i wrote something that i trust ceos more than i do politicians. so people hate ceos, lawyers, who's not hated. i don't know, carmelo anthony, maybe you like him today? >> i think he's all right. i wouldn't drive with him, but otherwise he's good. >> these people come on and there's no give, there's no give, maybe what that really means there's give give give, i think at some face value -- >> there has been give in the last 24 hours. let's get the latest as far as the proposals back and forth at white house. the president and john boehner speaking by telephone on tuesday changing fiscal cliff proposals. reducing new tax revenue from 1.6 to $1.4 trillion over five years. but they're jockeying on who should spell out the specifics on the spending cuts. walmart's ceo mike duke expressed concerns about the fiscal cliff. >> the week before the election, only one-fourth, 25% of our core customers even knew what fiscal cliff meant. okay? one week after the election, it was up to 75%. now thes